Comments on: “The conversation is getting away from me…” (more reflections) http://edinsanity.com/2008/04/11/the-conversation-is-getting-away-from-me-more-reflections/ “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” Albert Einstein Sat, 31 Jul 2010 22:19:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Sue Waters http://edinsanity.com/2008/04/11/the-conversation-is-getting-away-from-me-more-reflections/comment-page-1/#comment-128 Sue Waters Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:24:14 +0000 http://edinsanity.wordpress.com/?p=88#comment-128 Referring to Scott's comment - we do already have tools that can track conversations across multiple blogs. You can use <a href="http://co.mments.com/" rel="nofollow">co.mment</a> or <a href="http://www.cocomment.com/" rel="nofollow">cocomment</a> then subscribe to their RSS in Google Reader to easily track the actual comments on posts. Plus set up an RSS feed from technorati and/or Google Blog Search for the main term in the conversation - in your case it would be your name in quotes. That way you can remain engaged in the conversation. As Vicki Davies highlights the most important part of blogging is the conversation. But it does take time, effort, commitment and patience to learn how to engage effectively in these conversation. We can't control this conversation just like we can't control any face-to-face conversation. I've never thought about someone taking my idea using it on their blog and getting more conversation. Perhaps if I'd had friends early on that were well known bloggers maybe I would feel disappointed because I was working hard (but knowing me it would drive me to learn more). Normally I just honored that others have liked my thoughts enough to blog about them and link to me :) (okay occasionally they've liked the idea and not linked -- which isn't that nice). Good luck Jon and there is nothing wrong with reflecting with where you are at :) Referring to Scott’s comment – we do already have tools that can track conversations across multiple blogs. You can use co.mment or cocomment then subscribe to their RSS in Google Reader to easily track the actual comments on posts. Plus set up an RSS feed from technorati and/or Google Blog Search for the main term in the conversation – in your case it would be your name in quotes. That way you can remain engaged in the conversation.

As Vicki Davies highlights the most important part of blogging is the conversation. But it does take time, effort, commitment and patience to learn how to engage effectively in these conversation. We can’t control this conversation just like we can’t control any face-to-face conversation.

I’ve never thought about someone taking my idea using it on their blog and getting more conversation. Perhaps if I’d had friends early on that were well known bloggers maybe I would feel disappointed because I was working hard (but knowing me it would drive me to learn more). Normally I just honored that others have liked my thoughts enough to blog about them and link to me :) (okay occasionally they’ve liked the idea and not linked — which isn’t that nice).

Good luck Jon and there is nothing wrong with reflecting with where you are at :)

]]> By: kamccollum http://edinsanity.com/2008/04/11/the-conversation-is-getting-away-from-me-more-reflections/comment-page-1/#comment-129 kamccollum Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:21:47 +0000 http://edinsanity.wordpress.com/?p=88#comment-129 If people are commenting on your ideas and you can find those comments, how important is it that they comment here? If people are commenting on your ideas and you can find those comments, how important is it that they comment here?

]]> By: Kevin Hodgson http://edinsanity.com/2008/04/11/the-conversation-is-getting-away-from-me-more-reflections/comment-page-1/#comment-130 Kevin Hodgson Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:11:30 +0000 http://edinsanity.wordpress.com/?p=88#comment-130 Hi Jon So, I seem to have followed some of the ancillary conversations from other people's blog to your blog, and I don't have any set opinions on whether this world is a closed loop or not. Sometimes, I feel it is and sometimes, I feel it isn't. My feeling is there is a group that many people look up to for direction and that group did not come into play with that intention. It's just that they are insightful and work hard at their sharing and reflection, etc. I do believe that many edubloggers want to help others and advice and help is often just a click away. I have never gotten the feeling that anyone has been shunned or purposely kept out of the conversations. Take care and I am glad to have your blog in my RSS reader. Kevin Hi Jon
So, I seem to have followed some of the ancillary conversations from other people’s blog to your blog, and I don’t have any set opinions on whether this world is a closed loop or not. Sometimes, I feel it is and sometimes, I feel it isn’t.
My feeling is there is a group that many people look up to for direction and that group did not come into play with that intention. It’s just that they are insightful and work hard at their sharing and reflection, etc.
I do believe that many edubloggers want to help others and advice and help is often just a click away. I have never gotten the feeling that anyone has been shunned or purposely kept out of the conversations.
Take care and I am glad to have your blog in my RSS reader.

Kevin

]]> By: Vicki Davis http://edinsanity.com/2008/04/11/the-conversation-is-getting-away-from-me-more-reflections/comment-page-1/#comment-134 Vicki Davis Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:56:08 +0000 http://edinsanity.wordpress.com/?p=88#comment-134 Track your backlinks -- or use statcounter to find people who are talking about you... you cannot track or follow everything and open, freely flowing conversation is what it is all about. I have over 4000 readers, of course I'll get more comments. And when tech crunch blogged about me they got like 100 comments... that is just how it works. I don't own what people say about what I say any more than I own the blogosphere. It is tough to get used to because it is a complete paradigm shift. Focus on the students. Focus on the classroom. Be here for the right reasons. It isn't about the stats or how many comments you get. It is about the conversation. Track your backlinks — or use statcounter to find people who are talking about you… you cannot track or follow everything and open, freely flowing conversation is what it is all about. I have over 4000 readers, of course I’ll get more comments. And when tech crunch blogged about me they got like 100 comments… that is just how it works. I don’t own what people say about what I say any more than I own the blogosphere.

It is tough to get used to because it is a complete paradigm shift. Focus on the students. Focus on the classroom. Be here for the right reasons.

It isn’t about the stats or how many comments you get. It is about the conversation.

]]> By: » Outside Looking In | Kate Says http://edinsanity.com/2008/04/11/the-conversation-is-getting-away-from-me-more-reflections/comment-page-1/#comment-133 » Outside Looking In | Kate Says Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:22:50 +0000 http://edinsanity.wordpress.com/?p=88#comment-133 [...] Now, what inspired me to write this post was first noticing that everyone who wrote ABOUT Jon got more comments than he did, as well as his next post “The conversation is getting away from me…..” (more reflections) [...] [...] Now, what inspired me to write this post was first noticing that everyone who wrote ABOUT Jon got more comments than he did, as well as his next post “The conversation is getting away from me…..” (more reflections) [...]

]]> By: Charlie Roy http://edinsanity.com/2008/04/11/the-conversation-is-getting-away-from-me-more-reflections/comment-page-1/#comment-132 Charlie Roy Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:17:15 +0000 http://edinsanity.wordpress.com/?p=88#comment-132 @Scott Thanks for posting the link to he video from Michael Wesch. Very eye opening. @Scott
Thanks for posting the link to he video from Michael Wesch. Very eye opening.

]]> By: Scott McLeod http://edinsanity.com/2008/04/11/the-conversation-is-getting-away-from-me-more-reflections/comment-page-1/#comment-131 Scott McLeod Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:38:19 +0000 http://edinsanity.wordpress.com/?p=88#comment-131 "Yahoo, faced with the possibility that they could organize things with no physical constraints, added the shelf back. Since then ... we learned that we might not need complex hierarchies to find information ..." [from Michael Wesch, Information R/Evolution, www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4CV05HyAbM] Watch the video (again, if need be!). Read the books Everything is Miscellaneous and Here Comes Everybody. Get used to the idea that there's no way anyone's going to be able to reimpose any kind of hierarchy on the Web. And, hopefully, one day we'll have better tools that allow us to track conversations across multiple blogs, Twitter, e-mail, IM, etc.! “Yahoo, faced with the possibility that they could organize things with no physical constraints, added the shelf back. Since then … we learned that we might not need complex hierarchies to find information …”

[from Michael Wesch, Information R/Evolution, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4CV05HyAbM

Watch the video (again, if need be!). Read the books Everything is Miscellaneous and Here Comes Everybody. Get used to the idea that there’s no way anyone’s going to be able to reimpose any kind of hierarchy on the Web. And, hopefully, one day we’ll have better tools that allow us to track conversations across multiple blogs, Twitter, e-mail, IM, etc.!

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