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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://edinsanity.com/2008/08/05/on-being-an-informed-consumer-of-educational-research-in-the-digital-age/comment-page-1/#comment-1120</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Jon, Thanks!

Goals: I&#039;d like for it to be a quick starting point for discussions of the real, addressable problems of failing, inner city, minority schools. These sorts of two page summaries are popular among the software development crowd, and I thought I&#039;d see if we can&#039;t jumpstart a wider discussion of the problems by introducing a breadth of resources in one sweep. Wouldn&#039;t mind if it came to be used in some ed schools.

The strange bedfellows character: partly my trying to include different sides. Yet these are strange days. The very idea of Al Sharpton breaking the union/civil-rights/DNC monolith is amazing enough. And today, I listened to the most stunning interview with the President of the DC Teachers Union.* Times are changing--but they can still go backward.

The balance among the topics doesn&#039;t seem entirely right yet - too many video links from the same source; too few references from the Rothstein crowd maybe.

And theres no good reference document as to how de-unionizing could lead to more research-based, user-developed, curriculum &amp; learningware. 

What do you think?

* &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pbs.org/merrow/podcast/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Not the Only Kid on the Block&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;-Education Podcast with John Merrow #112: George Parker, president of Washington DC&#039;s Teachers Union, shares some astonishing confessions about the lack of accountability in the union and how it&#039;s affecting competition between public and charter schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Jon, Thanks!</p>
<p>Goals: I&#8217;d like for it to be a quick starting point for discussions of the real, addressable problems of failing, inner city, minority schools. These sorts of two page summaries are popular among the software development crowd, and I thought I&#8217;d see if we can&#8217;t jumpstart a wider discussion of the problems by introducing a breadth of resources in one sweep. Wouldn&#8217;t mind if it came to be used in some ed schools.</p>
<p>The strange bedfellows character: partly my trying to include different sides. Yet these are strange days. The very idea of Al Sharpton breaking the union/civil-rights/DNC monolith is amazing enough. And today, I listened to the most stunning interview with the President of the DC Teachers Union.* Times are changing&#8211;but they can still go backward.</p>
<p>The balance among the topics doesn&#8217;t seem entirely right yet &#8211; too many video links from the same source; too few references from the Rothstein crowd maybe.</p>
<p>And theres no good reference document as to how de-unionizing could lead to more research-based, user-developed, curriculum &amp; learningware. </p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
<p>* <a href="http://www.pbs.org/merrow/podcast/index.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Not the Only Kid on the Block</i></a>-Education Podcast with John Merrow #112: George Parker, president of Washington DC&#8217;s Teachers Union, shares some astonishing confessions about the lack of accountability in the union and how it&#8217;s affecting competition between public and charter schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Becker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Becker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ed - I&#039;ve perused the document.  What sorts of goals do you have for it?  Lots of strange bedfellows in one two page document?  You don&#039;t often see references to the Thernstroms, for example, on the same document that references Rothstein, for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ed &#8211; I&#8217;ve perused the document.  What sorts of goals do you have for it?  Lots of strange bedfellows in one two page document?  You don&#8217;t often see references to the Thernstroms, for example, on the same document that references Rothstein, for example.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://edinsanity.com/2008/08/05/on-being-an-informed-consumer-of-educational-research-in-the-digital-age/comment-page-1/#comment-1118</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://openhistoryproject.org/rebellion/Reverend%20Als%20Rebellion%20(working).pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2 page pdf on Failing Schools, Agile Education, and Learning &amp; Civil Rights&lt;/a&gt;, of course! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be, the <a href="http://openhistoryproject.org/rebellion/Reverend%20Als%20Rebellion%20(working).pdf" rel="nofollow">2 page pdf on Failing Schools, Agile Education, and Learning &amp; Civil Rights</a>, of course! <img src='http://edinsanity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://edinsanity.com/2008/08/05/on-being-an-informed-consumer-of-educational-research-in-the-digital-age/comment-page-1/#comment-1117</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, we might just wonder about the wisdom f spending precious summer moments reading a blog about suburbanites with not enough time, and then further taking time to spread the non-column, and further to complain about it!

(When, of course, if not strolling campus or the beach, you could be getting back to me on the two-page pdf review!)

Actually, what I wanted to comment on here was the idea that &quot;school leaders need to be informed and critical consumers of research.&quot; Not disagreeing with the principle, but the reality of the way schools are organized is that there will be precious little time indeed &quot;to not just accept what others say about the research base for a given program.  ...to find and critique the research base themselves.&quot;

What we need is for school leaders to begin to recognize that their economic model doesn&#039;t allow for this type of well-considered study, the way, say Boeing might, and begin making the switches to models that do.
ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, we might just wonder about the wisdom f spending precious summer moments reading a blog about suburbanites with not enough time, and then further taking time to spread the non-column, and further to complain about it!</p>
<p>(When, of course, if not strolling campus or the beach, you could be getting back to me on the two-page pdf review!)</p>
<p>Actually, what I wanted to comment on here was the idea that &#8220;school leaders need to be informed and critical consumers of research.&#8221; Not disagreeing with the principle, but the reality of the way schools are organized is that there will be precious little time indeed &#8220;to not just accept what others say about the research base for a given program.  &#8230;to find and critique the research base themselves.&#8221;</p>
<p>What we need is for school leaders to begin to recognize that their economic model doesn&#8217;t allow for this type of well-considered study, the way, say Boeing might, and begin making the switches to models that do.<br />
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		<title>By: Karen Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comment, &quot;And, is their argument/contention based on new data they’ve collected and analyzed?  Or, are they synthesizing others’ research?  Or, are they simply theorizing?&quot; is spot on...I read the press release and we struck by the seeming lack of research at all!  They point out that they are parents and the comments to the blog were mostly parents as well so what we&#039;ve got is a lot of anecdotal stuff but I wonder what the research evidence might be.  

In addition, there seem to be two different points here: kids are anti-intellectual and school is boring.  I wonder if they make any connection between making school more fulfilling and making kids more intellectual?  Are schools the only ones at fault for raising these &quot;passive consumers&quot;?  When I read that, I wondered if they had looked at any of the Pew Internet data that shows that kids are actually creating and interacting online, not just consuming.

All in all, you got it right: this is very frustrating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment, &#8220;And, is their argument/contention based on new data they’ve collected and analyzed?  Or, are they synthesizing others’ research?  Or, are they simply theorizing?&#8221; is spot on&#8230;I read the press release and we struck by the seeming lack of research at all!  They point out that they are parents and the comments to the blog were mostly parents as well so what we&#8217;ve got is a lot of anecdotal stuff but I wonder what the research evidence might be.  </p>
<p>In addition, there seem to be two different points here: kids are anti-intellectual and school is boring.  I wonder if they make any connection between making school more fulfilling and making kids more intellectual?  Are schools the only ones at fault for raising these &#8220;passive consumers&#8221;?  When I read that, I wondered if they had looked at any of the Pew Internet data that shows that kids are actually creating and interacting online, not just consuming.</p>
<p>All in all, you got it right: this is very frustrating!</p>
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