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		<title>By: Marshall</title>
		<link>http://edinsanity.com/2008/12/27/the-limits-of-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-1523</link>
		<dc:creator>Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As with others, I&#039;m glad things came out OK in terms of your family&#039;s safety in the accident.  Things like that really have us stand back to assess what is important.

No accident involved, but my family traveled by van over the holidays and used Google Map on my phone.  Note that Google clearly emphasize not to use it, &quot;while driving.&quot;  We complied for the most part, having the co-pilot run the technology.  About 3-4 times, we did get off track trying to follow the more particular routes, but nothing major.  Easy to see how we can get sucked into gadgets, though.  

With a simple daily use of spell-check, I find that I am MUCH less likely to re-read and proof a letter, message, etc. and may get sime baad cotnent allong tje wauy to.  Basically it makes me lazy.  Likely many of us do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As with others, I&#8217;m glad things came out OK in terms of your family&#8217;s safety in the accident.  Things like that really have us stand back to assess what is important.</p>
<p>No accident involved, but my family traveled by van over the holidays and used Google Map on my phone.  Note that Google clearly emphasize not to use it, &#8220;while driving.&#8221;  We complied for the most part, having the co-pilot run the technology.  About 3-4 times, we did get off track trying to follow the more particular routes, but nothing major.  Easy to see how we can get sucked into gadgets, though.  </p>
<p>With a simple daily use of spell-check, I find that I am MUCH less likely to re-read and proof a letter, message, etc. and may get sime baad cotnent allong tje wauy to.  Basically it makes me lazy.  Likely many of us do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: KarenR</title>
		<link>http://edinsanity.com/2008/12/27/the-limits-of-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-1505</link>
		<dc:creator>KarenR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to hear you are all OK!  Sorry it took an accident for it but your lesson is a good one for all of us.  Over the break, I spent face to face time  with two different groups of women friends and came away refreshed and reminded that there&#039;s something nice about just sitting in a living room without the interface of technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear you are all OK!  Sorry it took an accident for it but your lesson is a good one for all of us.  Over the break, I spent face to face time  with two different groups of women friends and came away refreshed and reminded that there&#8217;s something nice about just sitting in a living room without the interface of technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jon,

Sorry to hear about the accident, but I&#039;m so glad to hear that you and your family are ok.

Wishing you and the family a Happy 2009.

Best,

Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jon,</p>
<p>Sorry to hear about the accident, but I&#8217;m so glad to hear that you and your family are ok.</p>
<p>Wishing you and the family a Happy 2009.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Kevin</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 08:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kia ora

Another interesting conversation - and glad to hear that you are ok.
Betsy (or is it June C) set me thinking and I have to add another example that would get her grandmother shaking her head.  Last year I visited your country to stay with dear friends who have gorgeous twin babies.  I was intrigued that a radio was playing in the babies bedroom 24/7 (carefully selected music and station to reflect their values and tastes) and when I asked about it I was given a very sensible explanation that I can&#039;t remember.  What I do remember is wondering what life would be like if you grew up never experiencing the bliss of total silence.  I love noise, bustle and people, but I also value a walk without an iPod along the beach I live at to just listen or think or ...experience white space between the ears!
I think those babies might never get to experience &#039;coming up for air&#039; as you suggest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kia ora</p>
<p>Another interesting conversation &#8211; and glad to hear that you are ok.<br />
Betsy (or is it June C) set me thinking and I have to add another example that would get her grandmother shaking her head.  Last year I visited your country to stay with dear friends who have gorgeous twin babies.  I was intrigued that a radio was playing in the babies bedroom 24/7 (carefully selected music and station to reflect their values and tastes) and when I asked about it I was given a very sensible explanation that I can&#8217;t remember.  What I do remember is wondering what life would be like if you grew up never experiencing the bliss of total silence.  I love noise, bustle and people, but I also value a walk without an iPod along the beach I live at to just listen or think or &#8230;experience white space between the ears!<br />
I think those babies might never get to experience &#8216;coming up for air&#8217; as you suggest.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina K.</title>
		<link>http://edinsanity.com/2008/12/27/the-limits-of-technology/comment-page-1/#comment-1499</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great conversation!
The GPS gift was terrific for us this year just for the fact my husband and I always have huge discusions (yeah you know what I mean)on a trip and the GPS will make it pleasant, but I guess I will have to watch the directions.  
Now my example of technology teaching.
I teach photography, digital and dark room techniques.  When the students get to digital they do not worry about taking a good picture because they know that they can fix almost any mistake using the photo editing program the school has.  So they take photos that are terrible and usually get a lower grade.  In the dark room they realize the value of a good photo and negative because the image will be hard to get on paper with poor quality lighting etc.
Now how does this relate to technology and teaching?
Is teaching with technology, jumping at every new gizmo and site, like not taking a good photo to start with?  
Good teaching starts with the basics and then is enhanced with technology.
I see it also with blogging.
Good conversation skills start person to person and blogging just enhances it.
And as I have learned today good map reading skills are basic (you got to know N,S,E,W) and GPS is a wonderful enhancement.
Happy New Year 2009!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great conversation!<br />
The GPS gift was terrific for us this year just for the fact my husband and I always have huge discusions (yeah you know what I mean)on a trip and the GPS will make it pleasant, but I guess I will have to watch the directions.<br />
Now my example of technology teaching.<br />
I teach photography, digital and dark room techniques.  When the students get to digital they do not worry about taking a good picture because they know that they can fix almost any mistake using the photo editing program the school has.  So they take photos that are terrible and usually get a lower grade.  In the dark room they realize the value of a good photo and negative because the image will be hard to get on paper with poor quality lighting etc.<br />
Now how does this relate to technology and teaching?<br />
Is teaching with technology, jumping at every new gizmo and site, like not taking a good photo to start with?<br />
Good teaching starts with the basics and then is enhanced with technology.<br />
I see it also with blogging.<br />
Good conversation skills start person to person and blogging just enhances it.<br />
And as I have learned today good map reading skills are basic (you got to know N,S,E,W) and GPS is a wonderful enhancement.<br />
Happy New Year 2009!</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello! June C. here! Glad you are all right! I worry all the time about the effects of children&#039;s (my own) and teenagers&#039; (my students&#039;) reliance on technology. No one has to ask why or how come (Just Google). You don&#039;t have to be polite (Just text or leave a message). You don&#039;t have to learn how to wait (DVR) or to be patient (IM) or to relax (gaming). Students don&#039;t learn the beauty of the Enlish language and all the ways you can express a feeling or an idea, bc its all abbrev. 

My cousin received a GPS for Christmas, which prompted a conversation with my husband about this newfangled thang. We agreed that not having a GPS allows one to:
1. Find out new things on a real live map, which is distributed for free by each and every DMV in these beautiful 50 states and Commonwealths and 2. Discuss different options for directions with friends and relatives who have gone the way before, prompting new views, extra advice, and maybe some interesting family history and 3. Learn more about the immediate area in which you live and figure out where everything connects and 4. Maybe veer off course--maybe find a new town, a new place, do something not uber-planned based on exact mileage, extimated arrival time, and how many Starbucks there are along the way.

My 91 year old Grandmother says that our society is going to &quot;hell in a handbasket&quot; these days; at least we can program it in and just follow the GPS on the way down!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello! June C. here! Glad you are all right! I worry all the time about the effects of children&#8217;s (my own) and teenagers&#8217; (my students&#8217;) reliance on technology. No one has to ask why or how come (Just Google). You don&#8217;t have to be polite (Just text or leave a message). You don&#8217;t have to learn how to wait (DVR) or to be patient (IM) or to relax (gaming). Students don&#8217;t learn the beauty of the Enlish language and all the ways you can express a feeling or an idea, bc its all abbrev. </p>
<p>My cousin received a GPS for Christmas, which prompted a conversation with my husband about this newfangled thang. We agreed that not having a GPS allows one to:<br />
1. Find out new things on a real live map, which is distributed for free by each and every DMV in these beautiful 50 states and Commonwealths and 2. Discuss different options for directions with friends and relatives who have gone the way before, prompting new views, extra advice, and maybe some interesting family history and 3. Learn more about the immediate area in which you live and figure out where everything connects and 4. Maybe veer off course&#8211;maybe find a new town, a new place, do something not uber-planned based on exact mileage, extimated arrival time, and how many Starbucks there are along the way.</p>
<p>My 91 year old Grandmother says that our society is going to &#8220;hell in a handbasket&#8221; these days; at least we can program it in and just follow the GPS on the way down!</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theresa White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you are ok!  I think you make a good point - sometimes we have to rely on our common sense and not our technology.  I am a Crackberry addict, so I know first hand what I&#039;m talking about :)  It&#039;s a good lesson and, thank goodness, it came without a huge price!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you are ok!  I think you make a good point &#8211; sometimes we have to rely on our common sense and not our technology.  I am a Crackberry addict, so I know first hand what I&#8217;m talking about <img src='http://edinsanity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   It&#8217;s a good lesson and, thank goodness, it came without a huge price!</p>
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		<title>By: Justin B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GPS is certainly a big one for me. People don&#039;t know how to navigate anymore and don&#039;t bother remembering the way to anything because they can fall back on the GPS. I have always had a knack for navigating, so GPS systems really are a pet peeve of mine because they made my talent for finding my way meaningless.  

I&#039;ve recently found that I needed to get off Craigslist. I was looking so much on it for deals that I didn&#039;t bother to check out the furniture stores right down from my house. When I finally did, I found what I wanted at a reasonable price. I had checked Craigslist for weeks ... I could have saved myself the trouble had I just drove to the store in the first place. 

Glad you and your family are alright. That&#039;s always scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GPS is certainly a big one for me. People don&#8217;t know how to navigate anymore and don&#8217;t bother remembering the way to anything because they can fall back on the GPS. I have always had a knack for navigating, so GPS systems really are a pet peeve of mine because they made my talent for finding my way meaningless.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve recently found that I needed to get off Craigslist. I was looking so much on it for deals that I didn&#8217;t bother to check out the furniture stores right down from my house. When I finally did, I found what I wanted at a reasonable price. I had checked Craigslist for weeks &#8230; I could have saved myself the trouble had I just drove to the store in the first place. </p>
<p>Glad you and your family are alright. That&#8217;s always scary.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh!! Glad you and they are all right! I can sympathize - been there, both in a recent accident (this spring), and lost in that area of I95- with a genuine US Army pilot navigating, no less!

And, we recently experienced how clueless the GPS is, as it took us past our hotel in East Lansing; and on the same trip told us to make a sharp right turn into the Sandy Creek here in Waynesburg. (In the latter case, the correct directions were go straight over the bridge and continue straight for 15 miles then turn left.)

Yes, I have a lot to say about getting heads up into the real world. 

Recently, I asked at Fireside learning &lt;a href=&quot;http://firesidelearning.ning.com/forum/topics/checkin-fundraising&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;what people do to raise money for charities&lt;/a&gt;. The idea was to get people talking beyond demanding more of everything and thinking about how to pay for it. As you can see, not one person answered.

And, in fact, this brings up my major complaint about the public education system. It is designed (via ed schools, state regs, and collective bargaining) to minimize the contact the teaching staff has with the real world over a lifetime. 

Recent pedagogical thinking makes this worse by insisting that content matter doesn&#039;t. That &quot;learning how to learn&quot; is what&#039;s important, not any actual facts of history, science, math, etc.

If teachers had sat in design meetings or policy discussions or marketing sessions,. they&#039;d know that background knowledge means a great deal. Its those facts that allow us to &quot;look up from the screen&quot; and keep our wits about us. To stand above the current tide of thinking and tie the current problem in with the larger world.

Of course this applies even more to those who design curricula, both at the ed school and K12 levels. 

Accidents are accidents; that&#039;s why they have insurance (says my brother and agent). Its when we keep driving over reality that things get iffy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh!! Glad you and they are all right! I can sympathize &#8211; been there, both in a recent accident (this spring), and lost in that area of I95- with a genuine US Army pilot navigating, no less!</p>
<p>And, we recently experienced how clueless the GPS is, as it took us past our hotel in East Lansing; and on the same trip told us to make a sharp right turn into the Sandy Creek here in Waynesburg. (In the latter case, the correct directions were go straight over the bridge and continue straight for 15 miles then turn left.)</p>
<p>Yes, I have a lot to say about getting heads up into the real world. </p>
<p>Recently, I asked at Fireside learning <a href="http://firesidelearning.ning.com/forum/topics/checkin-fundraising" rel="nofollow">what people do to raise money for charities</a>. The idea was to get people talking beyond demanding more of everything and thinking about how to pay for it. As you can see, not one person answered.</p>
<p>And, in fact, this brings up my major complaint about the public education system. It is designed (via ed schools, state regs, and collective bargaining) to minimize the contact the teaching staff has with the real world over a lifetime. </p>
<p>Recent pedagogical thinking makes this worse by insisting that content matter doesn&#8217;t. That &#8220;learning how to learn&#8221; is what&#8217;s important, not any actual facts of history, science, math, etc.</p>
<p>If teachers had sat in design meetings or policy discussions or marketing sessions,. they&#8217;d know that background knowledge means a great deal. Its those facts that allow us to &#8220;look up from the screen&#8221; and keep our wits about us. To stand above the current tide of thinking and tie the current problem in with the larger world.</p>
<p>Of course this applies even more to those who design curricula, both at the ed school and K12 levels. </p>
<p>Accidents are accidents; that&#8217;s why they have insurance (says my brother and agent). Its when we keep driving over reality that things get iffy.</p>
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